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Mary Black, Song Interpreter


Earlier in her career, vocalist Mary Black probably

took a lot of flack from the critics. But not anymore. See, she doesn’t

write her own songs. She strongly believes in taking advantage of

the wealth of songwriting talent in and around her native Dublin.

She prefers to think of herself as an interpreter of great songs,

and on her latest album, "Speaking with the Angel" (Curb Records),

she covers a great song by New Jersey native John Gorka, "Cut

By Wire," as well as "Fields of Gold" by London-based

superstar Sting, formerly with the Police.

Black has written her own songs, but she doesn’t perform them

all that often, she explains by phone from her Dublin home.

"I come from that tradition of music where songs are passed on.

I grew up doing that and in the process I got to know the great Irish

writers," she says. "I’ve been lucky because there’s a wealth

of songwriters out there whose songs don’t get heard," she adds,

"and choosing material is a big part of what I do. I’ve always

felt my talents are more in interpreting and performing and singing

than in writing. I don’t want to compromise what I do."

"I think it’s a gift," says Black, who appears at McCarter

Theater Tuesday, April 4. "And you either have it or you don’t."

Although she started as a humble folk singer, by the early 1990s Black

had moved so thoroughly into the mainstream that she became as big

a seller in her native Ireland as the rock band U2, pianist and vocalist

Phil Coulter, and that longtime favorite of fans of traditional Irish

music, the Chieftains. Black began to attract a growing fan base in

the U.S. about 10 years ago, when she released "No Frontiers."

What does a song need for a big-selling artist like Black to cover

it, thus bringing some income to the often underpaid songwriter, who’s

allowed to live tax-free in Ireland?

"Obviously the lyrics are important, and I have to be able to

relate to the sentiment expressed in the song," she explains,

"but it’s also more than that. It’s something that moves me inside

to make me want to sing it, and hopefully the people listening to

me will feel the same way."

While Black may have disappointed the hard-core folk

aficionados in the 1990s with her move into more mainstream, pop-oriented

material, there’s no question the strategy helped her career. Now,

having established herself as a top seller, she’s free to do what

she wants. A stateside example from the late 1980s and early 1990s

can be found with Linda Rondstadt, who, after being all over pop radio

in the late ’70s and early ’80s, recorded an album of Mexican mariachi

songs in the early ’90s. These days, Rondstadt is taking something

of a break from the road. But the album of Mexican folk tunes hasn’t

destroyed her career by any means.

"I’ve gotten into a more contemporary area of music, so a lot

of Dougie McLean’s songs didn’t suit what I was doing until we recorded

this album, which I think is a rootsier album," Black explains

of "Speaking with the Angel."

Although her home base is in Dublin, now that she can afford it, she

has a second home in the west part of County Kerry. "It’s beautiful

out there, and steeped in traditional music and language and dance,"

she says.

"It’s so inspiring, I haven’t really been hanging out in that

kind of atmosphere for a while because of family commitments and touring.

Now that I’ve made time for it, it really felt great for me to be

able to go into a bar and sing a few songs with friends. It was really

good for me and it really did bring me back to my roots. I’ve always

sung for the fun of it, I don’t think I could have stayed with singing

for this long if I didn’t get pleasure from it," she explains.

Black, now a youthful 44, grew up in a lower-middle class family in

the heart of Dublin. But her father was from rural northwest Ireland,

from Rathlin Island off the north coast. Black’s father was a fiddle

player who passed songs on to his children person-to-person, in a

traditional way, what modern-day folkies call "the folk process."

"He knew tunes from his childhood which had been passed down to

him and he had a lot of friends who were musicians so they would all

swap tunes," she recalls, adding there was no record player in

the Black household. "The physical person was the way they used

to learn songs," she says.

Although the family may have been poor, Black admits she was raised

in a rich cultural environment in Dublin. "Every summer we used

to go off to Rathlin, and run wild in the fields," she recalls.

Black’s father was a plasterer and her mom was a housewife. "My

father used to do the stuff you don’t see anymore except in the much

older houses," she says. "He was very hard working, and while

we had it tough at times, you know, we were never hungry." While

the family had no stereo or record collection, they did have a radio.

She recalls going to youth clubs as a teenager and singing traditional

songs. There was a local cricket club that would host a folk night

on Sundays.

"I’d go and drink some minerals [lemonade] and a gang of us would

sing songs," she recalls. Black says her primary influence was

Sandy Denny, the British singer who was part of Fairport Convention.

Denny took her career solo after a number of years touring with the

British folk-rock ensemble.

"When I was in my teens in Dublin in the early ’70s, there was

a folk revival that had trickled over from England," she says.

"There were a lot of little folk clubs and coffee houses. They

weren’t pubs as such, but I was able to go to these places that served

minerals and coffee and it was a great time for swappin’ songs and

gettin’ your opportunity to sing."

While she may have grown up in a tough neighborhood in Dublin, the

young Black wasn’t a wayward teen by any means. This was something

to do in the early ’70s, she explains, for anyone who was the least

bit musically inclined. "I had two older brothers, and once they

were going to these clubs, I was allowed to go," she says, "so

once I got in there, I had two older brothers to look out for me."

In those days, she sang for the pure joy of it, and some of that magic

is captured on her latest release, "Speaking with the Angel."

She credits her oldest brother, a guitarist, who she says "was

picking up songs from all over the British Isles and sittin’ down

with me and singin’ them, again, just for the fun of it. We had no

big plan and it wasn’t as if we had this burning ambition to be performers."

As she got older, she began frequenting the pubs in Dublin, primarily

to sing, not to drink, she says. Her first big break was being asked

to open some shows in Ireland for folk singer Christy Moore, who had

a television show as well, she says. A few years later, she joined

the folk group DeDannan (pronounced Dee-dannon), and subsequently

toured folk festivals around the U.S. and Canada with that group.

She sang with DeDannan for three years, until 1986.

"After Christy Moore asked me to be a guest on his TV show, that

was really the beginning of my solo career, and my first recording

under my own name came out of that in about 1980," she says.

Black’s other albums available on Curb Records in the U.S. include

"Shine" and "Circus," and there’s also a retrospective

collection — she’s been singing professionally for 20 years —

called "Looking Back."

So how did Black become the biggest selling vocalist in all of Ireland?

"My music moved away from the traditional music I’d started with,

but I think there were always elements of that music in there,"

she says. "I don’t think I was ever strictly a traditional singer

and I never claimed to be one. I wanted to explore other areas of

music, and I did."

At McCarter Theater Black will be accompanied by Bill Shanley, guitar;

Tim Wedde, piano and accordion; James Blennerhassett on bass; Rod

Quinn on drums and percussion; and Frank Gallagher on fiddle, mandolin,

whistles and keyboard.

Given that she is a veteran of folk festivals, large theaters, coffee

houses and even pubs, how will her approach differ at McCarter? "I

don’t know if my approach is all that different from show to show,"

she says. "I like to keep it intimate, even if it is a bigger

place. I like to chat up the audience and tell them about the songs

and get them involved a bit, too, to sing along on some songs."

"Because I’m promoting `Speaking with the Angel’ I’ll be doing

a bunch of songs from that album, but there will be stuff that’s very

different as well," she says.

Black says she likes to keep things very informal. "If people

have any requests they’re welcome to shout them out or send them up

to the stage on a piece of paper," she says, "I’ll do my best

to get to them, but frankly, there’s a lot of material. If we can

do them we will and if we can’t, we can’t."

— Richard J. Skelly

Mary Black, McCarter Theater, 91 University Place, 609-258-2787.

$24 to $36. Tuesday, April 4, at 8 p.m.

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